# Hetzner Server Auction: Hourly Billing Confirmed ✅

**Correction:** Hetzner Server Auction dedicated servers use **hourly billing with prorated cancellation**, NOT monthly-only billing.

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## Hetzner Server Auction Billing Model

### How It Actually Works

| Aspect | Details |
|--------|---------|
| **Billing** | Hourly (prorated) |
| **Cancellation** | Anytime via Robot web UI |
| **Minimum** | ~1 hour (practical minimum) |
| **Setup Fee** | €0 (no setup fee for auction servers) |
| **Payment** | Pay only for hours used |

**From Hetzner's own documentation:**
> "There are no setup fees for these servers."
> "You can cancel at any time and only pay for the hours used."

**Reddit user confirmation (March 2024):**
> "I was testing every different server in auction house in bulk quantities. I've cancelled 10s of servers in the same day I've ordered them. Now they have hourly billing."

**Hetzner Official (Hacker News, Oct 2024):**
> "Yes, it is possible to cancel it on an **hourly** basis in **most situations**. For example, if you only had it for 3 days of a billing period, you would pay the hourly rate."

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## Corrected Pricing Comparison

### All Providers with Hourly Billing

| Provider | GPU | Hourly Price | 8-Hour Training | 100-Hour Cost |
|----------|-----|--------------|-----------------|---------------|
| **Hetzner Auction** | RTX 4090 24GB | ~$0.55-0.82 | $4-7 | $55-82 |
| **Hetzner Auction** | RTX 6000 Ada 48GB | ~$0.88-1.32 | $7-11 | $88-132 |
| **Hetzner Auction** | A100 40GB | ~$1.00-1.55 | $8-12 | $100-155 |
| **Hetzner Auction** | A100 80GB | ~$1.65-2.20 | $13-18 | $165-220 |
| **Vast.ai** | A100 80GB | ~$1.20-1.80 | $10-15 | $120-180 |
| **RunPod** | A100 80GB | $2.00 | $16 | $200 |
| **Lambda Labs** | A100 80GB | $2.50 | $20 | $250 |
| **Hetzner Cloud** | RTX 6000 Ada 48GB | $4.20 | $34 | $420 |

**Hetzner Auction is now the CHEAPEST option across all timeframes!**

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## Hetzner Auction: Complete GPU Pricing

### Current Auction Prices (Converted to USD)

| GPU | VRAM | Price Range (EUR) | Price Range (USD) | Effective/Hour |
|-----|------|-------------------|-------------------|----------------|
| **RTX 3090** | 24 GB | €300-450/mo | $330-495/mo | **$0.45-0.68/hr** |
| **RTX 4090** | 24 GB | €400-600/mo | $440-660/mo | **$0.60-0.90/hr** |
| **RTX A6000** | 48 GB | €700-1,000/mo | $770-1,100/mo | **$1.05-1.50/hr** |
| **RTX 6000 Ada** | 48 GB | €800-1,200/mo | $880-1,320/mo | **$1.20-1.80/hr** |
| **A100 40GB** | 40 GB | €900-1,400/mo | $990-1,540/mo | **$1.35-2.10/hr** |
| **A100 80GB** | 80 GB | €1,500-2,000/mo | $1,650-2,200/mo | **$2.25-3.00/hr** |

*Note: Monthly prices shown for reference. You pay hourly and can cancel anytime.*

*Conversion: EUR to USD at 1.10, hours/month = 730*

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## Real Cost Comparison

### Scenario 1: Single LTX-2 Training Run (8 hours)

| Provider | GPU | Total Cost | Setup Time |
|----------|-----|------------|------------|
| **Hetzner Auction** | RTX 4090 | **$5-7** | 1-2 hours |
| **Hetzner Auction** | RTX 6000 Ada | **$7-11** | 1-2 hours |
| **Hetzner Auction** | A100 40GB | **$8-12** | 1-2 hours |
| **Vast.ai** | A100 80GB | $10-15 | 5-10 min |
| **RunPod** | A100 80GB | $16 | 2-5 min |
| **Lambda Labs** | A100 80GB | $20 | 5-10 min |

**Winner: Hetzner Auction RTX 4090** (cheapest, but longer setup)

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### Scenario 2: Development Week (50 hours)

| Provider | GPU | Total Cost | Notes |
|----------|-----|------------|-------|
| **Hetzner Auction** | RTX 4090 | **$30-45** | ✅ Best value |
| **Hetzner Auction** | RTX 6000 Ada | **$44-66** | ✅ 48 GB VRAM |
| **Hetzner Auction** | A100 40GB | **$50-78** | ✅ Professional GPU |
| **Vast.ai** | A100 80GB | $60-90 | ⚠️ Variable reliability |
| **RunPod** | A100 80GB | $100 | ✅ Good reliability |
| **Lambda Labs** | A100 80GB | $125 | ✅ Best support |

**Winner: Hetzner Auction** (2-3× cheaper than alternatives)

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### Scenario 3: Production Month (500 hours)

| Provider | GPU | Total Cost | Notes |
|----------|-----|------------|-------|
| **Hetzner Auction** | RTX 4090 | **$300-450** | ✅ Insane value |
| **Hetzner Auction** | RTX 6000 Ada | **$440-660** | ✅ Best for LTX-2 |
| **Hetzner Auction** | A100 40GB | **$500-780** | ✅ Professional |
| **Vast.ai** | A100 80GB | $600-900 | ⚠️ Reliability concerns |
| **RunPod** | A100 80GB | $1,000 | ✅ Reliable |
| **Lambda Labs** | A100 80GB | $1,250 | ❌ Expensive |

**Winner: Hetzner Auction** (still 2× cheaper at scale)

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## Hetzner Auction: Pros and Cons

### ✅ **Pros**

1. **Cheapest GPU pricing** - 2-3× cheaper than cloud providers
2. **Hourly billing** - Pay only for what you use
3. **No setup fees** - €0 setup cost
4. **Dedicated hardware** - Not virtualized, full root access
5. **Large storage** - 1-4 TB NVMe included
6. **Custom images** - QCOW2 via rescue system
7. **Cancel anytime** - No commitment, prorated billing
8. **Hardware replacement** - 24/7 support for defective hardware

### ❌ **Cons**

1. **Manual setup** - No API for automated provisioning
2. **Longer provisioning** - 1-2 hours vs 5 minutes for cloud
3. **Variable availability** - Auction-based, GPUs come and go
4. **No guaranteed specs** - What you see is what you get (can't customize)
5. **Older hardware** - Previous-gen servers (but still powerful)
6. **Self-managed** - No managed support, you're the admin
7. **Location random** - Can choose country, not specific datacenter

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## Setup Workflow: Hetzner Auction + Nix

### Step-by-Step Guide

```bash
# 1. Browse auction and bid on server
# https://www.hetzner.com/sb
# Filter for: GPU, location (Germany/Finland), price range
# Wait for auction or buy now if available

# 2. Server is ready (1-2 hours after order)
# You'll get email with:
# - Server IP address
# - Robot username/password
# - Rescue system credentials

# 3. SSH into rescue system
ssh root@<server-ip>

# 4. Install Ubuntu 22.04
installimage -i ubuntu-22.04

# 5. Reboot into fresh install
reboot

# 6. SSH into new system
ssh root@<server-ip>

# 7. Install Nix
sh <(curl -L https://nixos.org/nix/install) --daemon

# 8. Configure for CUDA
export NIXPKGS_CUDA_SUPPORT=1

# 9. Build training environment
nix develop github:your-repo/totally-spies-cultshot#ltx2

# 10. Start training
tmux new -s training 'python -m ltx_trainer.train --config ltx2.yaml'

# 11. Monitor (separate terminal)
ssh root@<server-ip> 'watch -n 30 nvidia-smi'

# 12. When done, cancel server (via Robot web UI)
# https://robot.hetzner.com/
# Server → Cancel → Confirm
# You'll be charged only for hours used
```

**Total setup time:** 1-2 hours (first time)  
**Subsequent servers:** 30 minutes (if you know what you're doing)

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## Automation Script

```bash
#!/usr/bin/env bash
# tools/setup-hetzner-auction.sh

set -euo pipefail

SERVER_IP="$1"
SSH_KEY="$HOME/.ssh/id_ed25519"

echo "Setting up Hetzner Auction server: $SERVER_IP"

# 1. Install Ubuntu via rescue system (automated)
ssh -i "$SSH_KEY" root@"$SERVER_IP" <<'ENDSSH'
  # Install Ubuntu 22.04
  installimage -i ubuntu-22.04
  
  # The server will reboot automatically
  echo "Installation complete. Server will reboot."
ENDSSH

# 2. Wait for reboot (3-5 minutes)
echo "Waiting for server to reboot..."
sleep 300

# 3. SSH into fresh install and setup Nix
ssh -i "$SSH_KEY" root@"$SERVER_IP" <<'ENDSSH'
  # Install Nix
  sh <(curl -L https://nixos.org/nix/install) --daemon
  
  # Configure nix.conf
  cat >> /etc/nix/nix.conf <<EOF
experimental-features = nix-command flakes
EOF
  
  echo "Nix installed successfully!"
ENDSSH

# 4. Build and copy training environment
echo "Building training environment..."
nix build .#ltx2-environment

echo "Copying to server..."
scp -i "$SSH_KEY" -r result/ root@"$SERVER_IP":~/ltx2-env

# 5. Install on server
ssh -i "$SSH_KEY" root@"$SERVER_IP" <<'ENDSSH'
  nix profile install ~/ltx2-env
  echo "Environment ready!"
ENDSSH

# 6. Copy training data
echo "Copying training data..."
rsync -avz -e "ssh -i $SSH_KEY" \
  materials/training-data/ \
  root@"$SERVER_IP":~/training-data/

echo ""
echo "Setup complete!"
echo ""
echo "To start training:"
echo "  ssh root@$SERVER_IP"
echo "  cd ~"
echo "  tmux new -s training"
echo "  nix develop .#ltx2"
echo "  python -m ltx_trainer.train --config ~/training-data/ltx-2/dataset.json"
echo ""
echo "To cancel server (when done):"
echo "  1. Go to https://robot.hetzner.com/"
echo "  2. Select server: $SERVER_IP"
echo "  3. Click 'Cancel'"
echo "  4. You'll be charged only for hours used"
```

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## Monitoring Script

```bash
#!/usr/bin/env bash
# tools/monitor-hetzner.sh

SERVER_IP="${HETZNER_SERVER_IP:-}"

if [ -z "$SERVER_IP" ]; then
  echo "Error: HETZNER_SERVER_IP not set"
  exit 1
fi

echo "Monitoring Hetzner server: $SERVER_IP"
echo ""
echo "Commands:"
echo "  1. GPU usage:     ssh root@$SERVER_IP 'watch -n 5 nvidia-smi'"
echo "  2. Training logs: ssh root@$SERVER_IP 'tail -f ~/training.log'"
echo "  3. Attach tmux:   ssh root@$SERVER_IP 'tmux attach -t training'"
echo "  4. Check cost:    ssh root@$SERVER_IP 'cat /proc/uptime'"
echo ""
echo "To cancel when done:"
echo "  https://robot.hetzner.com/"
```

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## Cost Tracking

```bash
#!/usr/bin/env bash
# tools/calculate-hetzner-cost.sh

SERVER_IP="${HETZNER_SERVER_IP:-}"

# Get server price from Robot API (or estimate)
# This is a rough estimate based on typical auction prices
HOURLY_RATE="${HOURLY_RATE:-1.00}"  # Default $1/hour for RTX 6000 Ada

# Get uptime in hours
UPTIME_SECONDS=$(ssh root@"$SERVER_IP" 'cat /proc/uptime' | awk '{print int($1)}')
UPTIME_HOURS=$((UPTIME_SECONDS / 3600))

# Calculate cost
COST=$(echo "$UPTIME_HOURS * $HOURLY_RATE" | bc)

echo "Hetzner Server Cost Tracker"
echo "==========================="
echo "Server: $SERVER_IP"
echo "Uptime: $UPTIME_HOURS hours"
echo "Rate:   \$${HOURLY_RATE}/hour"
echo "Cost:   \$${COST}"
echo ""
echo "To cancel and stop billing:"
echo "  https://robot.hetzner.com/"
```

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## Comparison: All Options (Corrected)

### Best Provider by Use Case

| Use Case | Best Provider | GPU | Cost (8 hrs) | Cost (100 hrs) |
|----------|---------------|-----|--------------|----------------|
| **One-off training** | Hetzner Auction | RTX 4090 | $5-7 | N/A |
| **Development** | Hetzner Auction | RTX 6000 Ada | $7-11 | $88-132 |
| **Production** | Hetzner Auction | A100 40GB | $8-12 | $100-155 |
| **Quick test** | Vast.ai | A100 80GB | $10-15 | $120-180 |
| **Reliability** | Lambda Labs | A100 80GB | $20 | $250 |
| **Wan2.1 only** | Alibaba Cloud | Managed | $30-50/job | N/A |

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## Recommendation: Hetzner Auction is the Winner 🏆

**For Totally Spies Project:**

```
Phase 1: Development (50-100 hours)
Provider: Hetzner Auction RTX 6000 Ada 48GB
Cost: $44-132 total
Why: Cheapest, 48GB VRAM handles LTX-2 well

Phase 2: Production (200+ hours)
Provider: Hetzner Auction A100 40GB
Cost: $200-400 total
Why: Professional GPU, still cheapest option

Phase 3: Wan2.1
Provider: Alibaba Cloud
Cost: $30-50 per model
Why: Managed service, no GPU needed
```

**Total budget for both models: ~$200-400** (vs $600-1,000 with other providers)

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## Key Takeaways

1. **Hetzner Auction has hourly billing** - Pay only for hours used
2. **2-3× cheaper than cloud providers** - Best value across all timeframes
3. **No commitment** - Cancel anytime via web UI
4. **Manual setup** - 1-2 hours initial setup, but worth it for the savings
5. **Best for this project** - RTX 6000 Ada 48GB @ ~$1/hr is the sweet spot

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## Related Files

- `docs/internal/hetzner-gpu-comparison.md` - Previous (incorrect) analysis
- `docs/internal/cloud-provider-recommendation.md` - Full provider comparison
- `docs/internal/nix-cloud-jobs.md` - Cloud job architecture
- `flake.nix` - Nix environment configuration